Saturday, September 27, 2008

Catholics in the Public Square: Senate passes Kennedy-Brownback Down Syndrome Bill

Catholics in the Public Square: Senate passes Kennedy-Brownback Down Syndrome Bill

Legislation which has the potential to encourage parents to give life to babies with Down Syndrome and discourage abortions has passed the Senate

This is much needed.

Another source : The Catholic Down Syndrome Society

It is also a reminder to pray for Senator Kennedy.

God bless!

Friday, September 26, 2008

Canon Law Blog Updated--assisting at the invalid marriages of AWOL priests

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Well, since you asked, here's what's wrong with assisting at the invalid marriages of AWOL priests

Monsignor Robert Reardon, the Vicar General of the Archdiocese of Cardiff, is apparently slated to be the next bishop of Menevia in England. But there's a hitch; word is getting out that, in 1979, Reardon officially participated in the civil wedding of an AWOL priest (my term for a priest who abandons ministry without obtaining dispensation from the obligations of the clerical state, including celibacy).

Reardon apparently admits the deed, but adds "If someone can show me the church law I am supposed to have broken, I would be interested, but I'm not aware of it." Does the archdiocesan vicar general really not know what church laws would have been broken by such conduct?

Well, okay, here's two for starters:

LightoftheLaw URL:


Powerful. Amen and Amen!

God bless!!

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    Thursday, September 25, 2008

    Rep. Alcee Hastings APPLAUDED Amidst Laughter at Slur Against Sarah Palin!

    THIS is SICK!

    Exactly what are people thinking that they would LAUGH at something like this???

    The latest attack on Sarah Palin:

    Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because "anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks."

    "If Sarah Palin isn't enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention," Rep. Alcee Hastings of Florida said at a panel about the shared agenda of Jewish and African-American Democrats Wednesday. Hastings, who is African-American, was explaining what he intended to tell his Jewish constituents about the presidential race. "Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through," Hastings added as the room erupted in laughter and applause.

    There is not one shred of evidence to support this type of slur. And to have people actually applaud and laugh at such bigotry is appalling. Do people not even THINK when someone makes such an outrageous statement???

    I find this type of insulting commentary to be disgusting, regardless of which side may be making it. This is not only ridiculous and unfounded, it doesn't even make any sense.

    What does hunting and using guns have to do with Jews and blacks?

    In Nazi Germany, guns were confiscated! No one had them to defend themselves when the atrocities began. Do today's US Jews not remember that? How could they have laughed at such an ignorant statement as this one made by a Member of the House of Representatives of the US???? A CONGRESSMAN!

    The SECOND AMENDMENT gives us the right to have and own guns. Part of that reason was for our protection if a gov't goes astray.

    US Citizens have hunted to put food on the table just as mankind has from the beginning of time. To infer that Sarah Palin "
    don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks" just because she hunts is ridiculous, and he owes her an apology!

    And those who laughed and applauded his words should be ashamed of themselves.

    May God forgive them.

    Wednesday, September 24, 2008

    And you try to tell me that you see NO similarities in what is happening today???

    So you say you want to nationalize health care... and you have NO idea of the discrimination already in place for DENTAL CARE with what we currently have (T19) where one can not FIND a dentist to care for you, much less get Current Standard of Care...

    So you say that those nations with nationalized health care are WAY beyond us here, and we need to learn from them?

    Ok. Let's....

    We'll start with Premature Infants....

    Britain's Foremost Eugenics Apologist Seeks Minimum Age for Premature Babies to Receive Care

    Under 24 weeks, only those showing strong chance of survival to be "kept going"

    LONDON, June 10, 2005 ( - This week, Britain's foremost promoter of eugenic "Bioethics," Baroness Helen Mary Warnock, said that Britain should follow the Dutch euthanasia model in setting an age limit below which babies would not routinely be resuscitated.

    Warnock's suggestion is that the first presumption should be not to keep the baby alive if at all possible, but to examine a case before hand with the presumption that only those infants who show a strong chance of living to be 'healthy' should be allowed to survive. She said, "Some doctors and nurses get competitive about the triumph of keeping these tiny, premature, babies alive," she said. "It would be better to set a minimum age than to have no form of scrutiny or regulation. Below a certain age of gestation no baby should be kept going without very thorough scrutiny of what the prognosis for that baby is." 

    continue reading here

    Next, let's talk about the elderly with dementia....

    Baroness Warnock: Elderly with Dementia have a "Duty to Die"

    Called "a regression to the brutal ancient world, when enforced suicide as a punishment was commonplace"

    By Hilary White

    LONDON, September 19, 2008 ( - In an interview, Baroness Mary Helen Warnock has said that people suffering dementia have a duty to commit suicide.

    Baroness Warnock, called the "philosopher queen", is regarded as Britain's leading moral philosopher. She said that she hopes people will soon be "licensed to put others down" who have become a burden on the health care system.

    She told the Church of Scotland's Life and Work magazine, "If you're demented, you're wasting people's lives - your family's lives - and you're wasting the resources of the National Health Service."

    In another article for a Norwegian periodical, titled "A Duty to Die?" she suggests, "There's nothing wrong with feeling you ought to do so [commit suicide] for the sake of others as well as yourself."

    "In other contexts, sacrificing oneself for one's family would be considered good. I don't see what is so horrible about the motive of not wanting to be an increasing nuisance."

    continue here

    Think this is new? She said it already way back in Dec 2004! Only NOW she is saying it is clearly too expensive for them to live.
    Oh, wait... she did say it way back then...

    UK's "Philosopher Queen," Warnock Says Elderly and Ill have Obligation to Suicide

    "I am not ashamed to say some lives are more worth living than others."

    LONDON, December 14, 2004 ( ) - Anti-euthanasia activists have frequently warned that one danger of legalizing the practice would be to create a social atmosphere in which the elderly and ill would feel obliged to commit suicide. Advocates on the other side have usually dismissed such warnings as a scare tactic. Now, however, a leading proponent of euthanasia and other anti-life policies in the UK, has come right out and said it.

    con't here

    OH... and then there is the little matter of the disabled? Oh, heck... they have that covered as well! From Feb 2004.....

    Terminally Ill UK Man Fights for Right to Not be Killed by Withdrawal of Food and Water

    LONDON, UK, February 26, 2004 ( - A British man is fighting the UK's General Medical Council for the "right to life". Leslie Burke, 44, suffers from a terminal degenerative brain condition called cerebellar ataxia. In the UK, doctors are allowed to euthanise the terminally ill by refusing them food and water.

    The suit is considered a 'test case' for the terminally ill. Burke's barrister, Richard Gordon, QC, said that the case is an important one because "Patients like Mr. Burke may die when they don't want to die. They may die because of the withdrawal of artificial nourishment and hydration by clinicians who think it is in their best interests," he explained. A physician's decision to end a patient's life supersedes even the wishes of family members such as spouses, children, or even parents.

    Continued here

    There was a time once before when 'non-productive' or 'useless' eaters were 'taken care of' ....

    And it all began with a court order...and law changes, and a lot of propaganda...

    Current Medical Euthanasia and Eugenic Abortion Practices Echo Nazi Past

    Planned Parenthood foundress Margaret Sanger worked with the Nazi's in early 1930s

    BERLIN, October 2, 2003 ( - Recent research into the Nazi euthanasia programme has shown that as many as 200,000 institutionalized patients were killed beginning in 1939 before the instigation of the Jewish Holocaust.

    Germany's Federal Archive released a report Tuesday revealing new evidence that doctors and other hospital staff used gas, drugs or starvation to kill the disabled patients as part of Hitler's programme of racial purification.

    German Culture Minister Christina Weiss told reporters at a press conference that the purpose of cataloguing the names of those killed was to restore some dignity to the victims," "We know that these crimes were meant to be kept secret," Ms. Weiss said. "The relatives of the victims received fake letters of condolence. The doctors in charge worked under false names." Even in internal documents, the Nazis cynically referred to the deaths as mercy killings, said a researcher at the federal archive.

    Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, said that the report was "an extraordinarily important body of information." The Jewish community has brought the horrors of the anti-Jewish policies of the Nazis into the public eye since the end of the war and their work has helped bring anti-semitism to the world's attention. However, the fact that the Nazi extermination programme began with the elderly, the sick, the mentally ill, has been well documented for decades. Rabbi Cooper said that the killing of the disabled was a kind of training ground for the Nazi regime to "fine-tune" its "technology of death".

    ...the rest of this article

    And you try to tell me that you see NO similarities in what is happening today???

    Lord, Have Mercy!
    Christ, Have Mercy!
    Lord, Have Mercy!

    God bless!

    There comes a time when personal desires have to take a back seat...

    For a long time, I have watched SENATORS reaching for the ultimate bar of the Presidency. I have listened to each of them discuss the things that SHOULD be done, that COULD be done, and that they WILL do "when I am elected".

    And I often wondered why NONE of them has been in Washington DC doing THEIR JOB.

    If it COULD be done, why wasn't it?

    If it SHOULD be done, why weren't they working on it?

    And if it WILL be done when they are elected President, why not start NOW?

    There was a time in my life that I was chief executive of my family. My desire also included returning to school for a change in my career. For awhile, it looked like I was doing just fine at handling my functions as Mom, Nurse, Student, taxi service, events coordinator, sports observer, community organizer, etc, etc, etc.

    Then my son needed surgery. I had to add to all of my responsibilities that of medical advisor and patient advocate with not only the MD's, but also his father and the insurance companies.

    All things still SEEMED to be going well, but it was all taking a toll. There came a point where I had to make a decision as to WHERE MY PRIMARY JOB WAS FOR THE MOMENT.

    I could have insisted on my right to continue as I had been doing, and 'coordinate' things long distance, via getting others to sit in for me, keep me updated, etc....

    But MY SON needed me to fulfill my current (not future) role as his MOM...and it was time to put everything else on the back burner, and spend the days/nights with him in the hospital.

    I had to put school on hold, and I had to take time off from my job...for my PRIMARY position as Mother.

    Today, our nation is in need of surgery, and it is VITAL that our elected officials DO THEIR JOB!


    McCain AND Obama belong IN DC doing the jobs that they have ALREADY been elected to~ NOW! (And yes, that also includes duly elected SENATOR Biden!)

    McCain saw this... Obama doesn't get it...he wants to look "Presidential'.... whatever that means...

    Obama says that he can juggle more plates than just one... so can many of us.
    BUT, ONLY THOSE ELECTED TO THE SENATE can do the work of the Senate.

    When a child needs surgery, a parent's place is AT HIS BEDSIDE.
    When the nation is in a crisis, EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL should put down what they are doing that is NOT part of the emergency and DO THEIR JOB!

    God bless!



    Posted by: Bodie & Brock Thoene on Wednesday, September 24, 2008

    How would John Wayne reply to  Barack Hussein Obama's  plans to 
    "change America" 
    into a
    socialist,  pacifist  nation which appeases  and negotiates
    with Islamic terrorists who proclaim

    in the U.N.  the  complete destruction of Jews, and Christians,
    and the elimination of Israel and America?


    'My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
    I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.' -- Barrack Obama


    ''Life's's even tougher if you're stupid.'' --  John Wayne

    Pray  and pray again!
    Brock and Bodie

    Copyright © 2008

    Catholic Marriage Petition site is now up again!

    I hope that those who have been searching for it can find it now...

    God bless!

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