Divorce, annulment and the Catholic Church
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Divorce, annulment and the Catholic Church
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Interesting, as Fr Catoir is the one who wrote an article about 'Internal Forum' that is not in line with Catholic teaching. Catholic teaching says that marriage is a public entity, and that we CANNOT use Internal Forum to resolve marital validity/nullity.
The same document can also be found here.
UPDATED March 15, 2008
I had a visitor today, and learned that the link to EWTN didn't work (it was the cached version so that the high-lighted sections were easier to spot and read).So I have corrected the link, and am posting what it says below...
EXCERPTS relating to this topic:
Others who know that divorced Catholics remain members of the church and understand that those who have entered into irregular marriages cannot be admitted to holy communion react to this moral reality in different ways. Those who understand the teaching of the church on the indissolubility of marriage and on sexual morality regard this practice as fitting since the couple have placed themselves in an objectively adulterous situation that stands in direct violation of the teaching of Christ and his church.8 Others look upon this practice as the mere imposition of church regulations or rules which they view as outdated in a society where so many marriages end in divorce. Some have proposed an approach that would allow divorced and remarried persons who, for any number of reasons, have not received a declaration of nullity of their first marriage(s) to receive holy communion on the basis of their sincere judgment of conscience that their first marriage was invalid. This so-called "internal forum solution" has also been invoked to justify reception of holy communion by persons in other objectively immoral situations.
We believe that those who promote unacceptable pastoral initiatives among divorced Catholics are in fact harming the spiritual welfare of those very persons they intend to help, and as shepherds of the flock we are concerned that the faithful not be misled in this regard.
In light of the serious confusion that sometimes occurs in this matter, we need to enunciate once again that divorced Catholics in irregular unions are not permitted to receive the eucharist. The Catechism of the Catholic Church helps us to understand the theological and pastoral reasons for this necessary restriction.
******and the sections devoted to it alone:5. Internal Forum Solution: Unacceptable for Divorced and Remarried
For similar reasons, the use of the so-called "internal forum solution" for cases of divorced-and-remarried persons who are personally convinced that their previous marriage was invalid is unacceptable, unnecessary and pastorally unsound. The canonical judicial procedures established by the Code of Canon Law to examine claims that a previous marriage was invalid are, in our view, comprehensive and responsive enough to declare invalid all marriages which truly are. As Msgr. Mario F. Pompedda, now dean of the Rota, remarked: "It would be purely academic to hypothesize about the existence of cases in which moral certitude could be reached only in the internal forum, that is, in conscience; such would be so rare that they should be considered practically nonexistent."12 This is especially true since Canon 1536.2, combined with Canon 1679, allows tribunals to grant a declaration of nullity, in the absence of other "objective" proofs of a previous marriage's invalidity, on the basis of personal depositions of the parties themselves. The canons, however, further require that these personal depositions of the parties be corroborated by character witnesses for the parties, if possible, and by other relevant facts and supporting evidence (Indicia Adminicula).13 These canons were added to the Code of Canon Law when it was revised in 1983 precisely to address cases in which proofs of invalidity-other than the declaration of the parties-are not available. Their presence in the code refutes one of the principal arguments for the use of the so-called "internal forum solution," making any use of it unnecessary and unacceptable.
Apart from the question of the canonical judicial procedure the "internal forum solution" in which individuals make a personal and subjective judgment about their canonical status is, in fact, a flawed pastoral solution because it cannot bring about the full reconciliation of the couple to the church. The couple's full participation in the life of the church can be re-established only through an ecclesiastical declaration of nullity or the death of a former spouse and the convalidation of the new union. Through these public acts of the church the couple will not only be admitted to holy communion, but will be entitled to share in the full life of the church available to all the laity. We encourage all Catholics who find themselves in irregular marriage situations, and therefore sadly separated from holy communion, to avail themselves of the tribunal process in their local diocese with the hope of being completely reconciled to the sacramental life of the church.
6. Unacceptable Extension of The "Internal Forum" Solution
Although originally employed to justify the reception of holy communion by divorced- and-remarried persons whose personal judgment was that their previous marriage was invalid, the so-called "internal forum solution" has been applied, although erroneously, in other similar situations. For example, it is now sometimes utilized by those living together without the benefit of marriage; by those civilly married; and by those in other objectively immoral situations. In these cases some persons claim that their subjective judgment of conscience allows them to receive holy communion. Those who exercise pastoral ministry in the church, particularly our priests, as well as all the members of the church, should understand why such rationalization is contrary to the true good of the church and ultimately detrimental to the spiritual welfare of the individuals involved. We emphasize this point for several reasons.
First, the "internal forum solution" has the effect of ratifying an erroneous judgment of conscience against the reality of objective moral truth. As a result, an opposition between the moral law which is normative and the subjective judgment of an individual's conscience is established and maintained. Such dichotomy leads only to spiritual harm. The ratification of erroneous judgment of conscience obscures the demand for moral truth. And in this way it can be seen as a "pastoral" solution which proposes "a kind of double status of truth ... [permitting one to do in practice and in good conscience what is qualified as intrinsically evil by the moral law. A separation, or even an opposition, is thus established in some cases between the teaching of the precept, which is valid in general, and the norm of the individual conscience, which would in fact make the final decision about what is good and what is evil."14 True conversion of heart and growth in holiness are thus hindered since the person sees no need to repent, reform and grow in the spiritual life.
Second, the "internal forum solution" undermines the teaching of the Lord and the church on the indissolubility of marriage and the sanctity of sexual union. Like marriage itself, the reception of the eucharist is an essentially public act. When individuals receive the eucharist, they proclaim their belief not only in the sacramental body of Christ, but also their sincere adherence to the teachings and practice of the church. As noted previously, for Catholics whose living situation violates the moral law the reception of the eucharist is contrary to the public situations in which they find themselves.
This unacceptable contradiction applies to the divorced and invalidly remarried, as well as to the individuals who are in other irregular situations mentioned above. By allowing persons in these situations to receive the eucharist the harmful consequences of the objective contradiction between the moral law and their real-life situation is overlooked. As a result, it might appear to some that the teaching of the church, which is the authentic expression of the law of Christ, represents only a vague ideal with no relevance to daily life rather than a life-giving precept meant to be followed with Christian faith and trust.
Third, we are concerned about the problem of scandal. Scandal is much more than a vague discomfort people experience when they see someone doing something wrong. The more serious danger of scandal is that in witnessing such situations others will be confused, weakened and misled into immoral behavior themselves.
The consequences of scandal are very real in the case of persons receiving the eucharist without the proper moral disposition. Permitting divorced-and-invalidly-remarried persons and those living in other morally objectionable relationships to receive the eucharist is potentially a source of great confusion and disunity within the body of Christ as well as a source of scandal. If the church were to allow this practice it would itself become a participant in the trends of our society that undermine the stability of marriage and family life. This would, of course, be completely contrary to its divine mission to be the "salt of the earth" and "light of the world" in speaking and teaching about the sacrament of matrimony. The ministers of the Gospel, then, would have succumbed to the influence of secular culture rather than struggling to transform the sinful world through the power of the Gospel of Christ.
Labels: Catholic Teaching, Divorce, Internal Forum, Marriage, Nullity
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Interesting read, but explain to me how the Church can reject me from receiving the Eucharist when my ex-wife left me for her co-worker with whom she admitted having sexual relations, never having loved me and had doubts before marriage. Now, I'm supposed to ask the Church for forgiveness, pay a handsome sum for the filing process and provide her contact information (I don't care where she is now and refuse to find her) so the healing and forgiveness can begin and I can become a member in good standing again?
I've always been a member in good standing -- I didn't have an affair or doubts. I don't need forgiveness. I won't pay an indulgence to the Church so they can dig up old wounds.
Once I'm cleared of being a sinner (and, now an adulterer, because I've married someone with whom I share a mutual eternal love and trust) will the Church send a fax to St. Peter indicating I've been cleared, paid my fine and am a good Catholic again?
Gimme a break! If that's what it takes to stay in the Catholic Church, I'm becoming a Protestant and worshiping the forgiving God of the New Testament (not the angry God of the Old Testament) among those who welcome myself and my wife and don't make it so darn impossible to do so.
The Church can take my word that my ex-wife destroyed my good standing in the Catholic Church in exchange for a sexual relationship with her co-worker, because lying is breaking the 9th Commandment -- but I'll never pay for an annulment or engage in a lengthy dirt-digging process to verify that my ex-wife is a sinner in the eyes of God and the Church in order to satisfy fellow mortal men who wear the badge of Catholic law enforcement.
I find it ironic that Catholic Bishops and parishes across the U.S. are so intent to legitimize and forgive illegal alien lawbreakers for invading our nation, yet I've committed no crime and they're intent on punishing me for a crime I didn't commit or intend to become victimized by when I exchanged my sacred wedding vows with my ex-wife. Hypocrites!
Interesting read, but explain to me how the Church can reject me from receiving the Eucharist when my ex-wife left me for her co-worker with whom she admitted having sexual relations, never having loved me and had doubts before marriage. Now, I'm supposed to ask the Church for forgiveness, pay a handsome sum for the filing process and provide her contact information (I don't care where she is now and refuse to find her) so the healing and forgiveness can begin and I can become a member in good standing again?
I've always been a member in good standing -- I didn't have an affair or doubts. I don't need forgiveness. I won't pay an indulgence to the Church so they can dig up old wounds.
Once I'm cleared of being a sinner (and, now an adulterer, because I've married someone with whom I share a mutual eternal love and trust) will the Church send a fax to St. Peter indicating I've been cleared, paid my fine and am a good Catholic again?
Gimme a break! If that's what it takes to stay in the Catholic Church, I'm becoming a Protestant and worshiping the forgiving God of the New Testament (not the angry God of the Old Testament) among those who welcome myself and my wife and don't make it so darn impossible to do so.
The Church can take my word that my ex-wife destroyed my good standing in the Catholic Church in exchange for a sexual relationship with her co-worker, because lying is breaking the 9th Commandment -- but I'll never pay for an annulment or engage in a lengthy dirt-digging process to verify that my ex-wife is a sinner in the eyes of God and the Church in order to satisfy fellow mortal men who wear the badge of Catholic law enforcement.
I find it ironic that Catholic Bishops and parishes across the U.S. are so intent to legitimize and forgive illegal alien lawbreakers for invading our nation, yet I've committed no crime and they're intent on punishing me for a crime I didn't commit or intend to become victimized by when I exchanged my sacred wedding vows with my ex-wife. Hypocrites!
I worked all night, have to get to bed, as I have a Baptism this afternoon and have to work the night shift again, so I have no time to respond to you in the manner it needs to be answered. I will have more time tomorrow, and will come back then to respond.
I am sorry for your pain. I have been there on the receiving end.
Til later tomorrow...
God bless!
I have finally had time to make a response, and have chosen to put it into a new entry that can be found here:
http://tinyurl.com/3hewzc
God bless!
Yup,no response from sanctimonius WICatholic. I tried following the link, but it just rebounds here. Not a surprise. Actually, it is a good analogy for the run-around the RC Church gives to the laity all the time. Why no reply? Easy and predictable. Because reformedconservative is right.
I am in a different situation, but meet similar lack of compassion and humanity. I should not be surprised, at the lack of humanity and decency in this church. Look at the Investigating Commission report on child abuse by the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland. This very low-key report finds that such abuse was systematic and the abusers protected by the church.
I am divorced. I was married in a church, but with a non-catholic rite and both of us were non-catholics. Now I meet a devout catholic who wants to marry me but will be denied the comforts of her religion just because she marries me. Lovely.
Uhm, sorry, I have NO idea where you sent a previous reply, but there is none in my email inbox from anyone related to this topic, or any other for the past few days.
Don't make accusations about my not responding until you have first asked if I ever RECEIVED your previous post, please, because there is no proof that this is a true statement. Anyone can say that they made an anonymous comment that has gone unanswered.
Exactly what does Jesus mean when he says "What God has joined, let no man put assunder?" What exactly does Paul mean when he says that it is a command of the Lord, not him (Paul) to remain single or reconcile with your spouse?
So, apparently Jesus is lacking in humanity and decency?
I am well aware of the reports of abuse in my Church, and also note that it is in other denominations/non-denominations as well. This is totally unrelated to the topic of divorce, etc.
Are you aware of the meaning of Covenant? Do you know what the Lord means in Malachi 2:13-17?
Another thing you do: You flood the LORD's altar with tears. You weep and wail because he no longer pays attention to your offerings or accepts them with pleasure from your hands. You ask, "Why?" It is because the LORD is acting as the witness between you and the wife of your youth, because you have broken faith with her, though she is your partner, the wife of your marriage covenant.
Has not the LORD made them one? In flesh and spirit they are his. And why one? Because he was seeking godly offspring. [e] So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith with the wife of your youth.
"I hate divorce," says the LORD God of Israel, "and I hate a man's covering himself [Malachi 2:16 Or his wife] with violence as well as with his garment," says the LORD Almighty.
So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith.
The Day of Judgment
You have wearied the LORD with your words.
"How have we wearied him?" you ask.
By saying, "All who do evil are good in the eyes of the LORD, and he is pleased with them" or "Where is the God of justice?"
God hates divorce. Jesus says that no man can put apart what God has put together (including man's divorce courts), and Paul says 10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
(The above is also the same command for men.)
I have checked again, and THINK that the anonymous writer of 6/15/2009 1:28 PM may have been referring to the fact that it took me some time due to my schedule to respond, and 'the link' he refered to may have been TO my response.
HOW he can say I did not respond, and it only leads back here is beyond me, and indicates that he did not take time to read my response.
The link, without the tiny url is here:
http://wicatholicmusings.blogspot.com/2008/04/response-to-comment-re.html
You will have to copy and paste that, as I have no idea how to make it a live link in my combox.
By the way, I also KNOW that he did not attempt to read the response, by simply checking the traffic flow here. There is only one outclick, and that is to make a comment.
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